Ratings Update – November 25

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!After HFT, I did come close to moving LASA A above State College A after LASA won HFT against State College, but decided to stay with the current order due to State College missing a player and the latter’s strong performance at ACF Fall.

I hope that within the next month, I’ll be able to start trying to figure out the relative difficulty of sets compared to each other.

I have removed 27 Oak Park and River Forest (IL) from the rankings due to no results. Of course, I just found their IHSSBA Kickoff stats, which indicate they’re somewhere in the 30-50 space, and they will reappear in the next set of official rankings.

New to the rankings: 13 IMSA A (IL), 28 Lisgar A (ON), 52 Auburn B (IL), 62 Glenwood (IL), 68 Torrey Pines B (CA), 69 Wheaton-Warrenville (IL), 75 LASA C (TX), 79 IMSA B (IL), 80 Lisgar B (ON), 89 Fort Zumwalt West (MO) (off statistics from an unofficial event), 92 LASA D (TX), 96 Maclay (FL), 100 Maggie Walker B (VA)

Falling out of the rankings: 87 Beachwood (OH), 89 Horace Greeley (NY), 90 Cave Spring (VA), 91 Seven Lakes B (TX), 92 Rickards (FL), 93 Northmont B (OH), 94 Rock Bridge (MO), 95 Eden Prairie B (MN), 96 University B (CA), 97 Ballard (KY), 98 High Technology (NJ), 99 Bayside (FL)

And here are the rankings:

1. State College A (PA) (1)
results – 1st at University of Virginia’s ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 500.0 ppg, 26.94 ppb)
2nd at Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 480.0 ppg, 25.85 ppb)
2. LASA A (TX) (2)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 515.5 ppg, 26.28 ppb)
2nd at Harvard Delta Burke (DB, 462.5 ppg, 25.97 ppb)
3. Maggie Walker (VA) (4)
results – Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 558.2 ppg, 25.71 ppb)
1st at VCU Fall (HSAPQ 15, 630 ppg, 12.4 15pg, 25.25 ppb)
4. Dorman A (SC) (5)
results – UVA ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 420.5 ppg, 24.80 ppb)
Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 437.5 ppg, 24.58 ppb)
1st at Ezell-Harding
1st at 21st Walton Academic Challenge
5. Hunter A (NY) (6)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 424.0 ppg, 24.60 ppb)
1st at PHSAT (DAFT, 562 ppg, 8.4 15pg, 25.13 ppb)
1st at Harvard Delta Burke (DB, 414.2 ppg, 24.00 ppb)
1st at Samhain (IS96, 475.4 ppg, 6 15pg, 22.18 ppb)

6. Bellarmine (CA) (3)
results – 1st at Berkley’s Cal Classic (IS96, 517.2 ppg, 8.2 15pg, 25.04 ppb) – missing second best player at this tournament
Split teams at Cardinal Junior Classic (IS97A)
A (439 ppg, 6.5 15pg, 23.29 ppb)
B (321.9 ppg, 3.8 15pg, 20.97 ppb)
C (257.5 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 20.30 ppb)
D (344.5 ppg, 4.7 15pg, 24.13 ppb)
7. Seven Lakes (TX) (7)
results – University of Virginia’s ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 415.0 ppg, 24.15 ppb)
1st (tied) at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 561.5 ppg, 8.6 15pg, 24.37 ppb)
8. Adlai Stevenson A (IL) (8)
results – 1st at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 499.1 ppg, 8 15pg, 24.28 ppb)
Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 479.5 ppg, 10.2 15pg, 24.11 ppb) (missing 2nd best player)
9. Richard Montgomery A (MD) (10)
results – UVA’s ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 353.5 ppg, 23.52 ppb)
Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 435 ppg, 22.58 ppb)
1st at Maryland Fall (IS96, 445.5 ppg, 5.3 15pg, 22.73 ppb)
Penn QuAC (DB, 464 ppg, 22.55 ppb)
10. Thomas Jefferson A (VA) (13)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 447.0 ppg, 24.21 ppb) – not affiliated with school
Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 569.6 ppg, 10.8 15pg, 25.17 ppb)
UVA’s ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 358.0 ppg, 22.81 ppb)
3rd at Maryland Fall (IS96, 364.5 ppg, 4.8 15pg, 22.11 ppb)

11. Alpharetta (GA) (9)
results – Georgia Harvard (HFT, 500 ppg, 22.68 ppb)
12. Auburn A (IL) (18)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 466 ppg, 8.9 15pg, 25.20 ppb)
13. IMSA (IL) (UR)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 475 ppg, 8.2 15pg, 24.69 ppb)
14. Dunbar A (KY) (12)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 354.0 ppg, 23.94 ppb)
2nd at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 503.6 ppg, 8 15pg, 23.86 ppb)
2nd at Hilltopper (IS97A, 462.1 ppg, 7.9 15pg, 22.87 ppb)
2nd at Ezell-Harding
15. Detroit Catholic Central A (MI) (16)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 545 ppg, 10.1 15pg, 24.41 ppb)
2nd at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 444.5 ppg, 5.7 15pg, 22.59 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 581.4 ppg, 9.1 15pg, 23.97 ppb)
3rd (tied) at Ezell-Harding

16. Northmont A (OH) (11)
results – 1st at FKT Centerville (FKT, 589.4 ppg, 25.87 ppb)
1st at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 527.7 ppg, 8.6 15pg, 23.52 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 564.3 ppg, 8.9 15pg, 24.31 ppb)
3rd at Parkersburg Catholic (IS97A, 302.8 ppg)
3rd (tied) at Ezell-Harding
17. Loyola (IL) (14)
results – 3rd at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 432 ppg, 6.4 15pg, 23.12 ppb)
Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 410.5 ppg, 8 15pg, 22.95 ppb)
18. Mission San Jose (CA) (15)
results – 2nd at Berkley’s Cal Classic (IS96, 428.3 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 20.05 ppb) – missing players at this tournament
split over two teams at BELLEROPHON
“first” team: (HSAPQ 15, 479.5 ppg, 7.7 15pg, 22.88 ppb)
“second” team: (HSAPQ 15, 387.5 ppg, 5.5 15pg, 21.47 ppb)
split over teams at Cardinal Junior Classic, all IS97A
“D” (494.5 ppg, 7.2 15pg, 24.14 ppb)
“A” (499.5 ppg, 7.4 15pg, 24.13 ppb)
“C” (260.0 ppg, 2.6 15pg, 17.67 ppb)
“E” (178.6 ppg, 1.9 15pg, 17.44 ppb)
“B” (171.4 ppg, 1.7 15pg, 14.38 ppb)
19. St. Anselm’s (DC) (17)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 461.5 ppg, 9.2 15pg, 23.04 ppb)
Penn QuAC (DB, 482.5 ppg, 23.00 ppb)
UVA ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 317.0 ppg, 21.68 ppb)
2nd at Maryland Fall (IS-96, 405.9 ppg, 5.1 15pg, 20.94 ppb)
9th at VCU EFT (EFT, 312.7 ppg, 2.2 15pg, 19.28 ppb)
Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 404.6 ppg, 19.24 ppb)
20. Johnson Central (KY) (22)
results – 3rd at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 522.2 ppg, 8.2 15pg, 23.25 ppb)

21. duPont Manual (KY) (19)
results – 1st at Dunbar Fall Academic Tournament* (DAFT, 351.7, 3.4 15pg, 17.22 ppb)
*Team consisted of one player, wasn’t officially duPont Manual
22. Walter Johnson (MD) (23)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 417.2 ppg, 7.6 15pg, 22.61 ppb) – missing 2nd best player per team report
5th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 376 ppg, 3.3 15pg, 21.45 ppb)
23. Carbondale (IL) (33)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 392 ppg, 7.4 15pg, 22.97 ppb)
6th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 276 ppg, 3.5 15pg, 21.63 ppb)
1st at Kickoff at Greenville (IS98, 496.4 ppg, 4.6 15pg, 20.36 ppb)
24. Rancho Bernardo (CA) (24)
results – 1st at UCI CBCT (HSAPQ 15, 461.2 ppg, 7.75 15pg, 23 ppb)
2nd at ACF Fall Caltech (ACF Fall, 332.9 ppg, 20.81 ppb)
UCLA TWAIN (IS96, 237.8 ppg, 2.44 15pg, 16.48 ppb)
Triton Fall (HFT, 284.4 ppg, 16.19 ppb)
25. St. Ignatius (IL) (21)
results – 5th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 347.5 ppg, 3.9 15pg, 20.63 ppb)

26. Walton (GA) (20)
results – at Georgia Tech EFT (EFT, 322.5 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 17.91 ppb)
27. Georgetown Day School (DC) (28)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 402.5 ppg, 5.7 15pg, 22.48 ppb)
4th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 257.2 ppg, 2.3 15pg, 19.29 ppb)
Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 353 ppg, 17.33 ppb)
28. Lisgar A (ON) (UR)
results – 1st at Ottawa (IS97A, 596 ppg, 8.2 15pg, 25.19 ppb)
29. St. Marks (TX) (29)
results – 3rd at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 378.6 ppg, 5 15pg, 22.14 ppb)
2nd at TQBA Kickoff (IS96, 388.3 ppg, 2.6 15pg, 21.33 ppb)
30. Cistercian A (TX) (25)
results – 1st at LL Lewis Cup (IS97A, 535.6 ppg, 6.7 15pg, 24.92 ppb)
1st (tied) at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 437 ppg, 6.4 15pg, 21.78 ppb)
TQBA Kickoff (IS-96, 345 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 17.84 ppb)

31. Olmsted Falls (OH) (26)
results – 1st at FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 507.2 ppg, 25.25 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 568.6 ppg, 8.1 15pg, 24.72 ppb)
1st at Parkersburg Catholic (IS97A, 318.1 ppg)
32. Detroit Catholic Central B (MI) (30)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 445 ppg, 6.9 15pg, 22.5 ppb)
4th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 324 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 19.35 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 447.1 ppg, 3.7 15pg, 22.45 ppb)
33. Lisle (IL) (31)
results – ACF Fall Ohio State (ACF Fall, 340.8 ppg, 20.33 ppb)
Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 364.5 ppg, 4.4 15pg, 22.13 ppb)
34. Dorman B (SC) (35)
results – ACF Fall South Carolina (ACF Fall, 293.3 ppg, 20.49 ppb)
2nd at Quaker Bowl (IS96, 380 ppg, 4 15pg, 18.49 ppb) – this was labeled Dorman A, but I believe B was there
35. University (CA) (32)
results – 3rd at UCI CBCT (HSAPQ 15, 410.9 ppg, 5.73 15pg, 21.63 ppb)
2nd at UCLA Twain (IS96, 353 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 21.56 ppb)

36. Chattahoochee (GA) (37)
results – Georgia HFT (HFT, 439 ppg, 21.36 ppb)
3rd at DAR (IS96, 360.6 ppg, 5 15pg, 20.61 ppb)
37. Guilford (NC) (34)
results – 1st at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HSAPQ 15, 466.2 ppg, 21.44 ppb)
UVA ACF Fall (ACF Fall, 260.5 ppg, 18.00 ppb)
Bonfire of the Manatees (HFT, 378.3 ppg, 2.1 15pg, 17.71 ppb)
38. New Trier (IL) (81)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 354.5 ppg, 4.7 15pg, 21.59 ppb)
8th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 325.5 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 17.26 ppb)
39. Torrey Pines A (CA) (36)
results – 1st at UCLA Twain (IS96, 350 ppg, 3.5 15pg, 21.03 ppb)
Triton Fall (HFT, 370 ppg, 19.69 ppb)
40. Thomas Jefferson B (VA) (40)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 256.0 ppg, 19.73 ppb) – not affiliated with school
6th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 341 ppg, 3.6 15pg, 21.02 ppb)
Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 349 ppg, 7.9 15pg, 17.89 ppb)

41. Ezell-Harding A (TN) (39)
results – 1st at UTC Trevor’s Trivia (HSAPQ 15, 531.4 ppg, 4.6 15pg, 20.43 ppb)
1st at DAR (IS96, 383.6 ppg, 3.7 15pg, 19.89 ppb)
1st at Hilltopper (IS97A, 548.1 ppg, 7.6 15pg, 24.73 ppb)
42. Raleigh Charter (NC) (41)
results – 2nd at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HSAPQ 15, 329 ppg, 21.33 ppb)
3rd at Quaker Bowl (IS96, 310 ppg, 1.8 15pg, 16.94 ppb)
43. Pensacola (FL) (46)
results – ACF Fall Alabama (ACF Fall, 318.6 ppg, 19.27 ppb)
44. Kellenberg (NY) (47)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 341.5 ppg, 20.52 ppb)
at Samhain (IS96, 400.4 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 20.39 ppb)
t5th at Seton Hall (IS97A, 465.6 ppg, 7.4 15pg, 23.63 ppb)
FAcT (IS99A, 475 ppg, 6.9 15pg, 24.10 ppb)
45. Culver (IN) (100)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 399.5 ppg, 6.7 15pg, 20.98 ppb)
7th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 266 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 15.58 ppb)

46. La Jolla A (CA) (42)
results – 3rd at UCLA TWAIN (IS96, 360.6 ppg, 4.2 15 pg, 20.29 ppb)
Triton Fall (HFT, 368.5 ppg, 19.57 ppb)
47. LASA B (TX) (60)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 358.0 ppg, 19.21 ppb)
3rd at Harvard Delta Burke (DB, 322.5 ppg, 21.12 ppb)
1st at TQBA Kickoff (IS96, 352 ppg, 3.6 15pg, 18.38 ppb)
48. Enloe (NC) (68)
results – Bonfire of the Manatees (HFT, 379.3 ppg, 2 15pg, 19.8 ppb)
1st at Quaker Bowl (IS96, 381.5 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 18.18 ppb)
3rd (tied) at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HSAPQ 15, 316.2 ppg, 17.2 ppb)
49. Solon (OH) (38)
results – t3rd at FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 449.4 ppg, 25.57 ppb)
1st at Mellon Bowl (IS98, 478.2 ppg, 3.2 15pg, 20.00 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 540.7 ppg, 5 15pg, 24.72 ppb)
50. Brookwood (GA) (45)
results – Hoover (IS98, 374 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 20.48 ppb)
Georgia HFT Mirror (HFT, 322 ppg, 15.76 ppb)

51. Parkersburg (WV) (48)
results – 1st at University (IS96, 460 ppg, 20.24 ppb)
2nd at Parkersburg Catholic (IS97A, 322.2 ppg)
52. Auburn B (IL) (UR)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 382 ppg, 6.1 15pg, 20.17 ppb)
53. Quince Orchard (MD) (49)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 355 ppg, 6 15pg, 20.09 ppb)
Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 258.6 ppg, 16.61 ppb)
Maryland Fall (IS96, 236.1 ppg, 2.8 15pg, 16.1 ppb)
54. Hunter B (NY) (52)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 286.0 ppg, 18.27 ppb)
3rd at PHSAT (DAFT, 344 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 19.66 ppb)
Harvard Delta Burke (DB, 229 ppg, 19.20 ppb)
t3rd at Seton Hall (IS97A, 464.5 ppg, 6 15pg, 24.38 ppb)
Samhain (IS96, 315.5 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 18.51 ppb)
55. Cheshire (CT) (43)
results – FAcT (IS99A, 425 ppg, 4.2 15pg, 24.13 ppb)

56. Copley (OH) (44)
results – 2nd at FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 455.6 ppg, 24.14 ppb)
57. North Hollywood (CA) (50)
results – 2nd at UCI CBCT (HSAPQ 15, 327.5 ppg, 3.9 15pg, 19.92 ppb)
TWAIN (IS96, 223.3 ppg, 1.9 15pg, 16.71 ppb)
58. Bellarmine B (CA) (51)
results – BELLEROPHON (HSAPQ 15, 285.6 ppg, 3 15pg, 19.68 ppb)
59. Seton Hall (NJ) (54)
results – Samhain (IS96, 318.3 ppg, 1.4 15pg, 20.16 ppb)
Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 253.0 ppg, 17.58 ppb)
t9th at PHSAT (DAFT, 382.5 ppg, 2.3 15pg, 18.97 ppb)
1st at LIFT (IS98, 367 ppg, 3.3 15pg, 18.19 ppb)
FAcT (IS99A, 528 ppg, 5.6 15pg, 24.03 ppb)
60. White Plains (NY) (53)
results – 2nd at LIFT (IS98, 351.5 ppg, 1.7 15pg, 19.33 ppb)
at Seton Hall Prep (IS97A, 376.1 ppg, 3.9 15pg, 20.98 ppb)

61. St. Joseph’s (NJ) (55)
results – ACF Fall Brandeis (ACF Fall, 281.7 ppg, 17.96 ppb)
Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 304.0 ppg, 18.06 ppb)
Penn QuAC (DB, 342.5 ppg, 18.63 ppb)
at Samhain (IS96, 334.6 ppg, 2.8 15pg, 18.05 ppb)
3rd at LIFT (IS98, 337 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 17.69 ppb)
at PHSAT (DAFT, 360.8 ppg, 3 15pg, 16.84 ppb)
FAcT (IS99A, 451 ppg, 5.4 15pg, 22.75 ppb)
at Seton Hall Prep (IS97A, 484.1 ppg, 6.2 15pg, 22.44 ppb)
62. Glenwood (IL) (UR)
results – 1st at Kickoff at PORTA (IS98, 341.7 ppg, 1.6 15pg, 19.23 ppb)
63. Danville (KY) (57)
results – 2nd at DAFT (DAFT, 296.7 ppg, 1.9 15pg, 18.59 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 415 ppg, 3.3 15pg, 23.22 ppb)
64. NCSSM (NC) (56)
results – t3rd at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HSAPQ 15, 348.9 ppg, 19.07 ppb)
Bonfire of the Manatees (HFT, 277.5 ppg, 1 15pg, 16.67 ppb)
65. Simon Kenton A (KY) (58)
results – 5th at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 340.6 ppg, 5 15pg, 18.56 ppb)
Tippecanose XV (IS99A, 357.9 ppg, 2.9 15pg, 22.34 ppb)

66. Cistercian B (TX) (64)
results – TQBA Kickoff (IS96, 314.5 ppg, 3.2 15pg, 18.86 ppb)
67. Dunbar B (KY) (59)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 322.5 ppg, 18.38 ppb)
4th at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 338.3 ppg, 4.3 15pg, 18.28 ppb)
3rd at Hilltopper (IS97A, 535 ppg, 7.7 15pg, 24.04 ppb)
68. Torrey Pines B (CA) (UR)
results – Triton Fall (HFT, 293.3 ppg, 18.06 ppb)
69. Wheaton-Warrenville (IL) (UR)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 320 ppg, 3.3 15pg, 18.79 ppb)
70. Arcadia (CA) (63)
results – 5th at UCLA TWAIN (IS96, 298.9 ppg, 1.4 15pg, 18.72 ppb)

71. Bergen County (NJ) (83)
results – Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 253.5 ppg, 17.71 ppb)
Penn QuAC (DB, 282.5 ppg, 17.18 ppb)
2nd at PHSAT (DAFT, 305 ppg, 2.5 15pg, 15.97 ppb)
4th at LIFT (IS98, 295.5 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 16.91 ppb)
Seton Hall Prep (IS97A, 426.4 ppg, 4.9 15pg, 20.97 ppb)
72. Ladue (MO) (61)
results – 1st at Missouri Fall (IS96, 426.5 ppg, 3.8 15pg, 18.30 ppb)
73. George Mason (VA) (62)
results – 9th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 345 ppg, 2 15pg, 18.38 ppb)
74. Walnut Hills A (OH) (82)
results – OSU Fall (DAFT, 297.8 ppg, 1.8 15pg, 16.32 ppb)
Tippecanoe XV (IS99A, 466.4 ppg, 4.6 15pg, 23.4 ppb)
75. LASA C (TX) (UR)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 286.0 ppg, 16.55 ppb)
Harvard Delta Burke (DB, 249 ppg, 18.33 ppb)

76. George C. Marshall (VA) (69)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 253.6 ppg, 4.1 15pg, 18.07 ppb)
77. Livingston (NJ) (71)
results – Samhain (IS96, 253 ppg, 2.3 15pg, 18.30 ppb)
78. Hume-Fogg (TN) (65)
results – Hoover (IS98, 346.9 ppg, 2 15pg, 18.27 ppb)
79. IMSA B (IL) (UR)
results – Loyburn (HSAPQ 15, 226.5 ppg, 4.3 15pg, 18.08 ppb)
80. Lisgar B (ON) (UR)
results – 2nd at Ottawa (IS97A, 510 ppg, 5.6 15pg, 22.37 ppb)

81. East Brunswick (NJ) (67)
results – Samhain (IS96, 289.5 ppg, 1.9 15pg, 18.23 ppb)
Penn QuAC (DB, 281 ppg, 17.81 ppb)
82. Ranney (NJ) (66)
results – Samhain (IS96, 284 ppg, 1.8 15pg, 18.18 ppb)
83. St. Charles (OH) (70)
results – OSU Fall (DAFT, 324.4 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 17.98 ppb)
Tippecanose XV (IS99A, 315 ppg, 1.9 15pg, 17.12 ppb)
84. Bishop’s School (CA) (74)
results – 7th at UCLA TWAIN (IS96, 263.9 ppg, 3.2 16pg, 17.86 ppb)
Triton Fall (HFT, 194 ppg, 14.45 ppb)
85. Great Neck South (NY) (72)
results – Samhain (IS96, 332.1 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 17.93 ppb)
LIFT (IS98, 236 ppg, 1.1 15pg, 16.97 ppb)

86. Walt Whitman (MD) (73)
results – Fright 2010 (HSAPQ 15, 234 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 17.90 ppb)
87. Eden Prairie (MN) (75)
results – SOCIAL (IS97A, 455 ppg, 4.7 15pg, 22.96 ppb)
88. Bellarmine C (CA) (76)
results – BELLEROPHON (HSAPQ 15, 323.1 ppg, 2.8 15pg, 17.66 ppb)
89. Fort Zumwalt West (MO) (UR)
results – 3rd at Gateway Invitational (Delta Burke, 228.5 ppg, 15.54 ppb) – not affiliated with school
90. Centennial (GA) (77)
results – 1st at GATA Fall @ Chattahoochee High School (IS97A, 497 ppg)

91. Wilmington Charter A (DE) (80)
results – at Penn QuAC (DB, 306.5 ppg, 17.54 ppb)
3rd at PHSAT (DAFT, 301.7 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 15.63 ppb)
FAcT (IS99A, 366 ppg, 3.8 15pg, 22.61 ppb)
Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 228.2 ppg, 15.56 ppb)
92. LASA D (TX) (UR)
results – Harvard Fall Tournament (HFT, 336.5 ppg, 17.66 ppb)
Harvard Delta Burke (DB, 195 ppg, 16.28 ppb)
93. Chanhassen (MN) (78)
results – SOCIAL (IS97A, 412.5 ppg, 4.5 15pg, 22.44 ppb)
94. Wayzata (MN) (79)
results – SOCIAL (IS97A, 440 ppg, 5.6 15pg, 22.31 ppb)
95. Walnut Hills B (OH) (84)
results – Tippecanose XV (IS99A, 352.15 ppg, 4.0 15pg, 21.78 ppb)

96. Maclay (FL) (UR)
results – had three statistically strong teams at the Rickards Brain Bowl; I’m unsure of if teams were split evenly or not here.
A team: 1st (IS99A, 413.8 ppg, 2.0 15pg, 19.91 ppb)
B team: 4th (IS99A, 357.5 ppg, 3.5 15pg, 21.22 ppb)
C team: 5th (IS99A, 381.2 ppg, 3.5 15pg, 20.20 ppb)
97. St. Paul Central (MN) (85)
results – SOCIAL (IS97A, 406 ppg, 4.9 15pg, 21.04 ppb)
98. Blake School (MN) (86)
results – SOCIAL (IS97A, 346.3 ppg, 4.1 15pg, 21.06 ppb)
99. Minnetonka (MN) (88)
results – SOCIAL (IS97A, 318.1 ppg, 2.5 15pg, 21.14 ppb)
100. Maggie Walker B (VA) (UR)
results – Walt Whitman HFT (HFT, 155.5 ppg, 11.22 ppb)
VCU Fall (HSAPQ 15, 335.6 ppg, 3.6 15pg, 17.31 ppb)

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35 thoughts on “Ratings Update – November 25

  1. I would like to note that Bellarmine D at Cardinal Junior Classic was effectively an underpowered version of Bellarmine B. (for appropriate classification, of course)

  2. Fred,

    No love for St. Joe’s NJ ? We go to HFT and defeat TJB, LASA B, Hunter B and Seton Hall, and give LASA A a tougher match than several in the first tier, then play QuAC, finish 3rd and nearly defeat Richard Montgomery, while also defeating Hunter B & Seton Hall at Samhain and Cheshire at FaCT, and then we FALL in the rankings while defeating all these teams ranked ahead of us head-to-head? FRED, FRED, FRED, what’s a team gotta do? It’s OK though, we still love ya and know this a fun thing. But it seems you lock into PPB and ignore head to head matches—yes? PPB is a great indictor, true, but WINS and LOSSES are even better. Hope you’re having a great Thanksgiving!!!

    • This is a shorter response than I’d like to give, but unfortunately I’m rather restrained by time right now.

      I prefer PPB over W-L because it reflects a team’s performance over a number of rounds, while a single win is a very small sample size. In a lot of cases right now, I have very limited data on a lot of teams; St. Joseph’s playing eight teams is a real outlier.

      However, I do need to do a better job of accounting for teams, such as yours, which have consistently performed well against teams that I would rank above them by stats like PPB. I will try to account for this better in the future, though.

    • Chattahoochee defeated Alpharetta by 20 points in the final. I prefer the stronger showing of Alpharetta over 10 games in that tournament.

      I actually expect all teams that played on HFT to get a bump in the near future, since I’ll be taking a look at that set, and I expect it to have seriously depressed scoring compared to an IS or HSAPQ set.

  3. As previously explained, Bellarmine didn’t actually “split teams” at the Cardinal Junior Classic, if I’m interpreting that phrase correctly. Nikhil and I didn’t play at all, and our best player from “B” was on “D,” meaning that the only team on here from which you can gauge any accurate information is Bellarmine C.

  4. Yeah I’d give Chatt major credit for beating Alpharetta. Also give Centennial credit for knocking off Alpharetta at Brookwood and giving Dorman A a good game in the final.

    No need to add Torrey Pines B- that wasn’t their real B team, they split their A team at our HFT mirror just like La Jolla did (and Rancho was playing with only with one A-teamer, their 2nd best player). I’d also push Torrey and La Jolla up closer to 30-ish, though I think RB’s in the right place.

    • You’re always there to stick up for Centennial, aren’t you, Coach C? I’ll just say that the questions at Brookwood were atrocious, and nobody can really draw any conclusions from that whatsoever (there’s a lot of discussion on the GATA board that hasn’t made it over to hsquizbowl). Chattahoochee, on the other hand, did get a hard-earned victory over us at HFT, and I do think that both Chattahoochee and Centennial are underrated.

  5. Fred,

    You’re funny. Not to pick on Chesire, because they have a very good team. But let’s use them to reveal the flaw in your method. At FaCT they had over 24 PPB; we had 22 or so. We defeated them head to head by over 200 points—they got 7 TU’s. we got 13—but their PPB was higher, so they are better? They lost 4 games in that tournament, we lost one. Next, FaCT is the only tournament for which you have data on Chesire. We have competed in EIGHT Tournaments and played well in all of them, 4 NAQT STYLE, 4 ACF STYLE. We went to HFT and were paired with LASA in the Prelims and played them tough for a while and did as well as anyone except SC and Dorman. We then won the next tier with 5 Championship calibre teams as our opponents, and ALL of them are rated higher than us in your poll. Yet after our 8-2 at HFT, going 4-2 againnst your top 60, and averaging 320 PPG and close to 19 PPB, we FALL, while teams we defeated climb? Then we went to QuAC and finshed 9-1 in prelims, losing only to eventual winner St. Anselm’s in a respectable match, then we played your #9 RM in the semis and the match came down to the last question—we held them to 200 points under their tourney average. So, with as many tournaments under our belt as just about anyone, your suggest that the individual matches I cited are to few to give you a picture? We’ve played over 80 matches, Cheshire about 10 or so, yet you still have them ahead of us. Why? PPB. Do you think perhaps your method is flawed? You ignore TU’s and PPG!!!!!–and final tournament placement!!! But before closing, let me say this: We understand that in the final analysis this is all for fun. Your ranking will neither help nor hurt us head to head against any team we play, and if we do not produce, we will lose. Further, we understand that PPB is an area we nee to improve and we are sure we will. And, we know that what you are doing is not easy and that it is easy to overlook or miss performances when there are so many to evaluate. So, we no matter where you rank us, even if we drop out of the rankings, we appreciate what you are doing and know it engenders interest and fun around the nation. But you do need to rethink your ranking of Centennial & Chattahoochie, for Alpharetta is the real deal, and if those teams defeated Alpharetta, they are very dangerous teams indeed. Oh yes—we forgive you for not knowing our true perforamnce stats at HFT, since Andy made one large error in our match with LASA B which lowered our PPB & PPG t HFT, as well as reversing our win in that match. In the meantime, enjoy your turkey day leftovers!!!!

    • As captain for Cheshire, I will vouch that Mr. Powers’ assessment of our team at FAcT is fair; we did in fact lose to St. Joe’s by about 200 points and lost several other matches. We were also unpracticed and missing a more experienced member of our team that went to HSNCT last year. That said, we look forward to (hopefully) proving ourselves worthy of our ranking soon.

    • Um, I’m sorry if I’m ignorant and stupid, but why do you guys care so much? This is Fred’s personal rating of the high school quizbowl teams, no more, no less. There are plenty of probably overrated (RB) and underrated (TP) teams here

  6. I forget if this has been mentioned already, but the bonus conversion stats for TJ B at FRIGHT are inaccurate — the FRIGHT stats claim that TJ B had a 4ppb and a 5ppb game, neither of which actually happened. I’m not sure what the actual bonus conversion for those games was, but not counting those two games, TJ B averaged 20.87 ppb over eight games, a significant increase from 17.89 ppb.

  7. Thank you Audrey for your candid comments and support. And, if you were missing one of your best players at FaCT, then I am sure that you will justify your ranking in the very near future. And we will be rooting for this result as well, for it is easy to root for at team that is as talented and as gracious as yours is.

  8. Again, just for the record, Hunter B was missing its best or second best player (David) at both HFT and the Harvard Burke mirror.

  9. As usual, GDS was shorthanded today (now technically yesterday, 12/4) at GSAC XVIII at MLWGS. We were missing our second best player, Jordan. Maybe we will have our full team someday…

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