October 24 Update – Top 70

Quite a few changes this time. First of all, I’m expanding to 70, with the possibility of going to 100 later in the year (after that, it’s kind of just splitting hairs). Why 70? Because I’m too lazy to get to 75.Tournaments that are being added are:

Cal Classic; Danville Fall; Missouri Fall; LIFT X; Quad States Challenge; University High (WV); Pensacola Invitational; UIUC Earlybird;  Hilltopper Invitational; and Quaker Bowl

A couple of other changes were made to the ratings:

  • FKT performances were devalued, as the set was intended to be a JV set
  • The first college performances have been added
  • There’s been some movement in the top 25 this time

Here we go.

1. State College A (PA) (1)
results – none yet
2. LASA A (TX) (2)
results – none yet
3. Bellarmine (CA) (3)
results – 1st at Berkley’s Cal Classic (IS96, 517.2 ppg, 8.2 15pg, 25.04 ppb) – missing second best player at this tournament
4. Maggie Walker (VA) (4)
results – none yet
5. Hunter A (NY) (6)
results – 1st at PHSAT (DAFT, 562 ppg, 8.4 15pg, 25.13 ppb)

6. Adlai Stevenson (IL) (5)
results – 1st at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 499.1 ppg, 8 15pg, 24.28 ppb)
7. Dorman (SC) (7)
results – 1st at Ezell-Harding
1st at 21st Walton Academic Challenge
8. Seven Lakes (TX) (8)
results – 1st (tied) at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 561.5 ppg, 8.6 15pg, 24.37 ppb)
9. Alpharetta (GA) (10)
results – none yet
10. Northmont (OH) (16)
results – 1st at FKT Centerville (FKT, 589.4 ppg, 25.87 ppb)
3rd (tied) at Ezell-Harding
results – 1st at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 527.7 ppg, 8.6 15pg, 23.52 ppb)

11. Dunbar A (KY) (15)
results – 2nd at Ezell-Harding
2nd at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 503.6 ppg, 8 15pg, 23.86 ppb)
2nd at Hilltopper (IS97A, 462.1 ppg, 7.9 15pg, 22.87 ppb)
12. Loyola (IL) (22)
results – 3rd at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 432 ppg, 6.4 15pg, 23.12 ppb)
13. Thomas Jefferson (VA) (9)
results – 3rd at Maryland Fall (IS-96, 364.5 ppg, 4.8 15pg, 22.11 ppb)
14. Mission San Jose (CA) (11)
results – 2nd at Berkley’s Cal Classic (IS96, 428.3 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 20.05 ppb) – missing players at this tournament
15. Detroit Catholic Central A (MI) (17)
results – 3rd (tied) at Ezell-Harding
results – 2nd at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 444.5 ppg, 5.7 15pg, 22.59 ppb)

16. Richard Montgomery A (MD) (19)
results – 1st at Maryland Fall (IS-96, 445.5 ppg, 5.3 15pg, 22.73 ppb)
17. St. Anselm’s (DC) (14)
results – 2nd at Maryland Fall (IS-96, 405.9 ppg, 5.1 15pg, 20.94 ppb)
9th at VCU EFT (EFT, 312.7 ppg, 2.2 15pg, 19.28 ppb)
18. Auburn (IL) (12)
results – none yet
19. duPont Manual (KY) (13)
results – 1st at Dunbar Fall Academic Tournament* (DAFT, 351.7, 3.4 15pg, 17.22 ppb)
*Team consisted of one player, wasn’t officially duPont Manual
20. Walton (GA) (20)
results – at Georgia Tech EFT (EFT, 322.5 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 17.91 ppb)

21. St. Ignatius (IL) (18)
results – 5th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 347.5 ppg, 3.9 15pg, 20.63 ppb)
22. Cistercian A (TX) (24)
results – 1st at LL Lewis Cup (IS-97A, 535.6 ppg, 6.7 15pg, 24.92 ppb)
TQBA Kickoff (IS-96, 345 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 17.84 ppb)
results – 1st (tied) at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 437 ppg, 6.4 15pg, 21.78 ppb)
23. Johnson Central (KY) (UR)
results – 3rd at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 522.2 ppg, 8.2 15pg, 23.25 ppb)
24. Walter Johnson (MD) (21)
results – 5th at Maryland Fall (IS-96, 376 ppg, 3.3 15pg, 21.45 ppb)
25. Olmsted Falls (OH) (23)
results – 1st at FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 507.2, ppg, 25.25 ppb)

26. Oak Park and River Forest (IL) (25)
results – none yet
27. St. Marks (TX) (32)
results – 2nd at TQBA Kickoff (IS-96, 388.3 ppg, 2.6 15pg, 21.33 ppb)
results – 3rd at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 378.6 ppg, 5 15pg, 22.14 ppb)
28. Torrey Pines (CA) (28)
results – 1st at UCLA Twain (IS96, 350 ppg, 3.5 15pg, 21.03 ppb)
29. University (CA) (29)
results – 2nd at UCLA Twain (IS96, 353 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 21.56 ppb)
30. Chattahoochee (GA) (30)
results – 3rd at DAR (IS96, 360.6 ppg, 5 15pg, 20.61 ppb)

31. Guilford (NC) (31)
reslts – 1st at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HT15, 466.2 ppg, 21.44 ppb)
32. Solon (OH) (26)
results – t3rd at FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 449.4, 25.57 ppb)
33. Ezell-Harding A (TN) (35)
results – 1st at UTC Trevor’s Trivia (HT16, 531.4 ppg, 4.6 15pg, 20.43 ppb)
1st at DAR (IS96, 383.6 ppg, 3.7 15pg, 19.89 ppb)
1st at Hilltopper (IS97A, 548.1 ppg, 7.6 15pg, 24.73 ppb)
34. Thomas Jefferson B (VA) (33)
results – 6th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 341 ppg, 3.6 15pg, 21.02 ppb)
35. La Jolla (CA) (34)
results – 3rd at UCLA TWAIN (IS96, 360.6 ppg, 4.2 15 pg, 20.29 ppb)

36. Carbondale (IL) (UR)
results – 6th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 276 ppg, 3.5 15pg, 21.63 ppb)
37. Raleigh Charter (NC) (36)
results – 2nd at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HT15, 329 ppg, 21.33 ppb)
3rd at Quaker Bowl (IS96, 310 ppg, 1.8 15pg, 16.94 ppb)
38. Copley (OH) (27)
results – 2nd at FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 455.6, 24.14 ppb)
39. Parkersburg (WV) (UR)
results – 1st at University (IS96, 460 ppg, 20.24 ppb)
40. Hunter B (NY) (37)
results – 3rd at PHSAT (DAFT, 344 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 19.66 ppb); t3rd at Seton Hall (IS97A, 464.5 ppg, 6 15pg, 24.38 ppb)

41. Detroit Catholic Central B (MI) (UR)
results – 4th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 324 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 19.35 ppb)
42. Georgetown Day School (DC) (38)
results – 4th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 257.2 ppg, 2.3 15pg, 19.29 ppb)
43. White Plains (NY) (UR)
results – 2nd at LIFT (IS98, 351.5 ppg, 1.7 15pg, 19.33 ppb)
at Seton Hall Prep (IS97A, 376.1 ppg, 3.9 15pg, 20.98 ppb)
44. NCSSM (NC) (40)
results – t3rd at UNC Tar Heel Cup (HT15, 348.9 ppg, 19.07 ppb)
45. Kellenberg (NY) (43)
results – t5th at Seton Hall (IS97A, 465.6 ppg, 7.4 15pg, 23.63 ppb)

46. Seton Hall (NJ) (39)
results – t9th at PHSAT (DAFT, 382.5 ppg, 2.3 15pg, 18.97 ppb)
results – 1st at LIFT (IS98, 367 ppg, 3.3 15pg, 18.19 ppb)
47. Simon Kenton (KY) (UR)
results – 5th at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 340.6 ppg, 5 15pg, 18.56 ppb)
48. Danville (KY) (42)
results – 2nd at DAFT (DAFT, 296.7 ppg, 1.9 15pg, 18.59 ppb)
49. Dunbar B (KY) (UR)
results – 4th at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 338.3 ppg, 4.3 15pg, 18.28 ppb)
3rd at Hilltopper (IS97A, 535 ppg, 7.7 15pg, 24.04 ppb)
50. LASA B (TX) (44)
results – 1st at TQBA Kickoff (IS-96, 352 ppg, 3.6 15pg, 18.38 ppb)

51. Ladue (MO) (UR)
results – 1st at Missouri Fall (IS96, 458 ppg, 4.2 15pg, 18.6 ppb)
52. George Mason (VA) (45)
results – 9th at Maryland Fall (IS96, 345 ppg, 2 15pg, 18.38 ppb)
53. Arcadia (CA) (46)
results – 5th at UCLA TWAIN (IS-96, 298.9 ppg, 1.4 15pg, 18.72 ppb)
54. Cistercian B (TX) (48)
results – TQBA Kickoff (IS-96, 314.5 ppg, 3.2 15pg, 18.86 ppb)
55. Dorman B (SC) (UR)
results – 2nd at Quaker Bowl (IS96, 380 ppg, 4 15pg, 18.49 ppb) – this was labeled Dorman A, but I believe B was there

56. Enloe (NC) (UR)
results – 1st at Quaker Bowl (IS96, 381.5 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 18.18 ppb)
57. Rock Bridge (MO) (UR)
results – 2nd at Missouri Fall (IS96, 439 ppg, 2 15pg, 18.0 ppb)
58. St. Joseph’s (NJ) (UR)
results – 3rd at LIFT (IS98, 337 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 17.69 ppb)
at PHSAT (DAFT, 360.8 ppg, 3 15pg, 16.84 ppb)
at Seton Hall Prep (IS97A, 484.1 ppg, 6.2 15pg, 22.44 ppb)
59. Bishop’s School (CA) (47)
results – 7th at UCLA TWAIN (IS-96, 263.9 ppg, 3.2 16pg, 17.86 ppb)
60. New Trier (IL) (UR)
results – 8th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 325.5 ppg, 3.4 15pg, 17.26 ppb)

61. Bergen County (NJ) (50)
results – 2nd at PHSAT (DAFT, 305 ppg, 2.5 15pg, 15.97 ppb)
results – 4th at LIFT (IS98, 295.5 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 16.91 ppb)
results – at Seton Hall Prep (IS97A, 426.4 ppg, 4.9 15pg, 20.97 ppb)
62. Beachwood (OH) (41)
results – FKT at Olmsted Falls (FKT, 362.1 ppg, 20.24 ppb)
63. Horace Greeley (NY) (UR)
results – 5th at LIFT (IS98, 253.5 ppg, 2.1 15pg, 17.17 ppb)
64. Rickards (FL) (UR)
results – 1st at Pensacola (IS99A, 606.1 ppg, 6.1 15pg, 20.96 ppb)
65. Charter A (DE) (UR)
results – 3rd at PHSAT (DAFT, 301.7 ppg, 2.7 15pg, 15.63 ppb)

66. Seven Lakes B (TX) (UR)
results – 4th at Quad States (HSAPQ 15, 260.9 ppg, 4.8 15pg, 15.86 ppb) – missing players
67. Bayside (FL) (UR)
results – 2nd at Pensacola (IS99A, 491.7 ppg, 3 15pg, 20 ppb)
68. Ballard (KY) (UR)
results – 6th at Danville (HSAPQ 15, 268.3 ppg, 3 15pg, 16.32 ppb)
69. Rancho Bernardo (CA) (UR)
results – at TWAIN (IS96, 237.8 ppg, 2.4 15pg, 16.48 ppb)
70. Culver (IN) (UR)
results – 7th at UIUC Earlybird (DAFT, 266 ppg, 3.1 15pg, 15.58 ppb)

Cal Classic
Danville Fall
Missouri Fall
LIFT X
Quad States Challenge
University High
Pensacola Invitational
UIUC Earlybird
Hilltopper Invitational
Quaker Bowl
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20 thoughts on “October 24 Update – Top 70

  1. Rancho Bernardo, with their full team at CBCT at UCI, beat a divided University team to win and put up a nice bonus conversion of 23.0 on HSAPQ questions. I’d move them into the top 30 for sure, although they haven’t played Torrey with their full A team yet.

    Otherwise the rankings look very good; thanks for keeping up with all this! I do wonder if there’s a bit of a bias against teams that played on IS 96 since that set seems to be trending harder than the HSAPQ ones.

  2. Chris, I think I somehow missed that tournament. I’ll have to reevaluate them with that info.

    Nick: duPont Manual dropped largely because I’ve been surprised by the performance of a few teams I had ranked below them (Northmont, Loyola, Richard Montgomery and St. Anselm’s). It’s tough to compare duPont Manual against them due to not really have much in the way of stats.

    Dunbar A went up because of their performance at Danville and because they split their teams at the Hilltopper, which was an A set. I’m not putting much stock in that performance.

      • Auburn was also ranked above duPont to start with.

        At this point in the season, I am going to favor teams that actually have statistics over those that do not. duPont effectively does not have stats as a team yet, so their position is very flexible at this point. Once I actually have results for the team, I will compare duPont with other teams and rank them accordingly.

      • We’re planning on going to Vanderbilt this weekend, and will hopefully play on questions that will help gauge our strength more than an A-set.

  3. Centennial HS belongs in the rankings somewhere. They lost in the quarterfinals at Walton, but only because they had to play Dorman. (Dorman showed up late and had to forfeit their 1st round, making them like #7 seed going into playoffs.) Otherwise, Centennial would have at least made the semifinals, probably the finals.

    Centennial also won the GATA Fall tournament last weekend, beating Alpharetta (#7 in these rankings) in a close game in the semifinals.

    Their best player, Adam Silverman, is REALLY good.

    • I’ve yet to figure out where to put them, but I agree with your assessment of Centennial – they’re obviously talented. I just don’t know where to slide them right now.

    • It might also help if there were more GA teams/players/coaches actively discussing GA Quizbowl on the public boards. That said, will Centennial be seeking out-of-state competition this year or will they stay within GA? I’m also curious how they fare at your HFT mirror, since it seemed like they did better on easier questions last year (relatively speaking, of course).

      • Well, Adam Silverman was the 15th highest scorer last year at the HSNCT (as a Sophomore), so he has shown that he can perform well on more difficult questions, and he has only gotten better this year. I will say that Adam seems to do especially well on NAQT questions.

        Centennial also did well on the Walton questions, which were at least an average High School difficulty level this year.

        In the past, Centennial hasn’t attended many tournaments, within Georgia OR out of state, but my impression is that they are planning to attend more tournaments this year. I’m not sure yet if they will be attending the HFT mirror, but I hope so.

        It would definitely help if the Georgia tournaments would make keeping stats a priority and if they would be willing to make them public. It is hard otherwise to make accurate judgments on a team’s ability.

  4. Thanks so much for putting this site together! My team (Rock Bridge) is new to the national scene, and this site is a great tool for us to gauge how we’re doing against the strongest teams nationally.
    All the Best!

  5. Well, Adam Silverman was the 15th highest scorer last year at the HSNCT (as a Sophomore), so he has shown that he can perform well on more difficult questions, and he has only gotten better this year. I will say that Adam seems to do especially well on NAQT questions.

    Centennial also did well on the Walton questions, which were at least an average High School difficulty level this year.

    In the past, Centennial hasn’t attended many tournaments, within Georgia OR out of state, but my impression is that they are planning to attend more tournaments this year. I’m not sure yet if they will be attending the HFT mirror, but I hope so.

    It would definitely help if the Georgia tournaments would make keeping stats a priority and if they would be willing to make them public. It is hard otherwise to make accurate judgments on a team’s ability.

  6. Just as a note, if the University A team isn’t playing with a full team at the HFT mirror at UCSD on November 13th, chances are our full lineup won’t be back until next year because of college apps, though we’ll still be fielding teams.

  7. Wow!
    How nice to see my guys being posted on this listing! And, moving up a couple of notches, too, ain’t bad at all — thanks to whoever is our guardian angel!

    But, out of necessity, we’re taking a couple of weeks off — need to re-charge batteries, get ready for All Saints’/ All Souls (and, yes, Halloween!) and then we’ll be back to competitions in November.

    Once again, thanks for the considerations!

  8. In my region, Hunter A is terrific (540 plus ppg & 25 ppb on DAFT questions at Princeton; Hunter B is also excellent, as are Seton Hall and Kellenberg. My own team, SJHS, is young but pretty good as well, but we’ll know more about all these teams as a whole when they all play IS 96 at Bergen’s Samhain this Halloween weekend. Since this Set has been played at many venues already across the country, it should provide an early basis of comparison between the best in this region and the best in other regions that have already played the set. Two very good local teams that will not be at Samhain will be Bergen Academies (because they are hosting) and White Plains, but the rest of the best regional teams will be in attendance, so it should be a pretty good competition.

  9. GDS was relatively short-handed today at RM FRIGHT. We were missing one player for the whole day, and we lost 110 PPG Daniel after Round 5.

  10. Our B team (Hunter) is markedly worse on NAQT than on other HS sets – I don’t know why. Probably due to a lack of lateral thinking skills. That being said, the actual B team was on the field at Samhain and I’d much rather play them than, say, Kellenberg or Seton Hall. Ranking them 40th may have been premature.

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